tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post8511927090876957469..comments2023-10-22T10:53:07.976-04:00Comments on 14th & You: 14th Street Burger Joint Running Into Strong Opposition14th & Youhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10401615764637283832noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-70115546331555459042011-04-09T17:03:47.954-04:002011-04-09T17:03:47.954-04:00Every time I've walked by the place all I'...Every time I've walked by the place all I've seen are beer cups. There might be one or two tables with snack food ... but that's about it. Unless this place has the kind of liquor license that doesn't require making a certain percentage of sales from food sales, I don't see how they're going to manage to retain their liquor license.Lancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-79836477813335040942011-02-20T01:29:45.934-05:002011-02-20T01:29:45.934-05:00The spot was a Texaco station, at least in the lat...The spot was a Texaco station, at least in the late 40's - early 50's. I gave the Standard guys a photo of property taken at that time. J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-53881852941717484212010-04-11T10:04:07.584-04:002010-04-11T10:04:07.584-04:00$6 max menu...OMG the yuppies wouldn't dare be...$6 max menu...OMG the yuppies wouldn't dare be caught inside of there. He should raise the price of his burgers to $16 and he'll be approved in no time. <br /><br />I'm so done with what the hot spot neighborhoods have turned into. The cultural diversity has all but vanished. <br /><br />On a side note...Am I the only one seeing Jack Evans driving around talking on his cell phone time and time again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-21851055232495048742010-04-02T10:24:59.636-04:002010-04-02T10:24:59.636-04:00This is unrelated, but does anyone know what (furn...This is unrelated, but does anyone know what (furniture?) store is setting up shop at 14th and Q? It looks sort of like a Design Within Reach, but there aren't any signs up yet.DAPPER VANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17426475927282678495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-71572555236747884732010-03-27T12:58:41.835-04:002010-03-27T12:58:41.835-04:00me type bad...me type bad...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-72288104559955307002010-03-27T12:57:29.499-04:002010-03-27T12:57:29.499-04:00The site likely was a former gas station based on ...The site likely was a former gas station based on its configuration. It's easy to determine - involves a hour of research at the DC MLK library. Previous use as a gas station would not preclude successful re-use as a restaurant. The new tenant / owner may not be responsible for environmental investigation or clean-up based on when the gas station ceased operation. I would be happy to discss further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-38478929421256528122010-03-23T15:32:17.137-04:002010-03-23T15:32:17.137-04:00I like the idea of the restaurant coming to town. ...I like the idea of the restaurant coming to town. Burgers / Cheesesteaks / Crepes all within a block of each other! Awesome. But I don't like the idea of an establishment open until 1AM serving liquor and having 130 people OUTSIDE. Thats a lot of people and a lot of noise. Perhaps cut the hours on the outdoor portion and liquor portion? I am usually open to new restaurants coming into town but thats assuming the noise is contained within the building, not outside.Tom Lewisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-34721339722456219072010-03-22T14:47:49.642-04:002010-03-22T14:47:49.642-04:00Really, a well written and well thought through po...Really, a well written and well thought through post. I feel a lot more informed having read it. Thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16132674237614327721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-16793137926599828462010-03-20T16:10:52.153-04:002010-03-20T16:10:52.153-04:00A sign has gone up at the site saying "Office...A sign has gone up at the site saying "Office Space for Rent." Does that mean the potential renter has backed out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-15393237539336046362010-03-19T14:25:27.382-04:002010-03-19T14:25:27.382-04:00This is just a general comment unrelated to Standa...This is just a general comment unrelated to Standard that I want to make to echo what Anon 1:56 said: The NIMBYism in this city/neighborhood is ridiculous. Aside from the merits of this particular venture (I'm reserving judgment and do see both sides of the issue), people living in DC's close-in neighborhoods need to lighten up a bit. Places like these are WHY I choose to live in DC. We need to start embracing them in our backyards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-3133848807898487532010-03-19T14:02:10.212-04:002010-03-19T14:02:10.212-04:00Why doesn't he expand the place for more indoo...Why doesn't he expand the place for more indoor seating? It probably wouldn't cost too much to put an atrium on the building. Personally I don't care of this opens or not. I think the burger craze is pretty disgusting and irresponsible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-14190002036781315232010-03-19T13:05:24.010-04:002010-03-19T13:05:24.010-04:00The size of the outdoor area does seem large. I t...The size of the outdoor area does seem large. I think the places along 17th with outdoor seating stay open until midnight though. Do they have neighbor issues there? Are there structural things which can be done to mitigate the noise short of expanding the existing indoor space? Given there is only seating for 15 people indoors, it sounds like it would be lean times comes winter.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17719293781218556557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-59456069677481433562010-03-19T00:16:39.465-04:002010-03-19T00:16:39.465-04:00What is occurring in this situation is the convers...What is occurring in this situation is the conversion of an outdoor garden center (very low impact use), into an outdoor pub and hamburger venue (high impact use), directly across and adjacent to single family row houses.<br /><br />I really like the concept and the price points, we lack affordable pubs with food on 14th, and I enjoy outdoor seating, particularly on days like today, however it's not just hours of operation, its the location and the scale are at issue here.<br /><br />The family housing across the street has been there since the 70's. So the people affected are not "New York wanting condo buyers," and 127 seats outside is three times larger than any other outdoor presence I can think of in the 14th & U area. <br /><br />Their plans are for 15 seats indoors, 63 outdoors on private space and a request for a sidewalk cafe of 64 outdoors in public space. However, no site plans have been presented, so issues of how they are going to manage waste from the site, (Dumpsters next to tables?), have not been addressed.<br /><br />I will reserve final judgement until I see the plans, however right now my preference would be to wait on the approval of the sidewalk cafe until after the business can demonstrate a track record of operations and the real impacts can be determined.<br /><br />If the adjacent residents don't feel affected, then great, if they do feel it is negatively impacting them, then the public space can be used to landscape and take other measures to mitigate those impacts.<br /><br />But, again, will wait for more details.Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-51612441415859748082010-03-18T16:35:22.783-04:002010-03-18T16:35:22.783-04:00Um, good thing this guy isn't trying to open a...Um, good thing this guy isn't trying to open a restaurant in California...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-73021260455824528452010-03-18T15:26:41.928-04:002010-03-18T15:26:41.928-04:00In California, the Alcoholic Beverage Control is u...In California, the Alcoholic Beverage Control is unable to issue a license within 100' of residences unless the applicant can prove that the operation will not disturb the residents' peace and quiet and enjoyment of their property. If the applicant agrees to license conditions such as limiting hours of operation and entertainment, requiring back doors to remain closed, etc., that will ameliorate any resident concerns, and then the ABC can issue the license. <br />Lauren C. Tyson<br />www.theliquorlicenseadvisor.comLauren C. Tysonhttp://www.theliquorlicenseadvisor.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-39486440336445507422010-03-18T13:56:44.590-04:002010-03-18T13:56:44.590-04:00I like your idea about the pub licenses. We reall...I like your idea about the pub licenses. We really need places like this in the District and I will definitely be a customer at this proposed establishment. Residents have got to realize that if they want to live the "New York style life" they so desire by buying these condos in the city that they will have some noise and congestion from time to time. We are a metropolitan city folks. If you want suburbia, move out to Reston!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-63149929806346916102010-03-18T11:29:24.519-04:002010-03-18T11:29:24.519-04:00Anon 11:08, your voice can be heard at the ANC and...Anon 11:08, your voice can be heard at the ANC and ABRA meetings! Idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-34658461476010977892010-03-18T11:08:49.378-04:002010-03-18T11:08:49.378-04:00I live in the neighborhood and I really hope this ...I live in the neighborhood and I really hope this place opens. We need more places like this--casual, low-key, good food.<br /><br />What frustrates me is that there is no way to make your voice heard when you support a new restaurant. We only here from the protesters, and that's not the way it should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-34495777559628594442010-03-18T09:31:11.773-04:002010-03-18T09:31:11.773-04:00Anon 8:37: The possible environmental issues at t...Anon 8:37: The possible environmental issues at the site were discussed at the 1B meeting with regards to the site being a potential brownfield. Apparently, the DC DOE has some information about storage tanks buried underneath the property, but I've been unable to locate anything specific--hence my hedge about "possible" environmental issues. So, I'm comfortable with my "facts", seeing as how I didn't present the environmental issue as such.Mr. Other Upper NWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12536367497290075887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-26808627189961604722010-03-18T08:37:51.525-04:002010-03-18T08:37:51.525-04:00There was never a gas station there. Get your fact...There was never a gas station there. Get your facts straight. In fact, this whole article, with quotes from "sources close to the negotiations" sounds like it's full of holes. Did you even talk to the guy trying to open the place?<br /><br />I do like your idea about the pub license. We need more places like this in DC. If you can't open a place like this on 14th street then the city is truly in trouble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-73458353178642028662010-03-18T07:07:03.653-04:002010-03-18T07:07:03.653-04:00I'm betting that a third ANC protest is in the...I'm betting that a third ANC protest is in the making, as he has yet to present/talk to ANC 2F, where the family residences directly across the street are located.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com