tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post1619558236747526429..comments2023-10-22T10:53:07.976-04:00Comments on 14th & You: "Voluntary Agreements" - Necessary or NIMBYism?14th & Youhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10401615764637283832noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-10419097885079505512010-07-31T15:56:06.577-04:002010-07-31T15:56:06.577-04:00Hate the word NIMBY.
How about OIYBI - to be used...Hate the word NIMBY.<br /><br />How about OIYBI - to be used at those who use NIMBY.<br /><br />Only in YOUR backyard.<br /><br />Or, allow only long time residents of DC to use the word NIMBY. Or you can use it if you can show you will be here longer than the typical hotel guest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-55593123174692598972010-07-29T07:53:51.148-04:002010-07-29T07:53:51.148-04:00Anon/ANC2B commissioner: 16th and K is not a resi...Anon/ANC2B commissioner: 16th and K is not a residential area--it's disingenuous to say that it is when everything immediately surrounding it is either office space or hotels. An outdoor eating space is not going to impact 16th Street's "historic character" and "green lawns" (where are all of those lawns, BTW? I walk by 16th and K all of the time, and don't recall seeing many lawns...). Are they looking to tear down a building or pave over a lawn? No, they're looking to add some tables and chairs and allow people to dine al fresco. The horror.Mr. Other Upper NWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12536367497290075887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-66906607138416792852010-07-29T00:21:25.176-04:002010-07-29T00:21:25.176-04:00Olives did NOT have an outside terrace. PJ Clarke...Olives did NOT have an outside terrace. PJ Clarke's request is for an entirely new outside space. It'll be the first outside cafe anywhere along the 16th Street historic district otherwise known for its green lawns and residential character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-72932366531809279052010-07-25T20:36:46.835-04:002010-07-25T20:36:46.835-04:00I remember attending an ANC 2B meeting several yea...I remember attending an ANC 2B meeting several years ago where two of the commissioners endlessly questioned the owner of a new restaurant about the menu. One got the impression that if it didn't meet their approval, they would vote against the VA. The owner had his attorney with him, billing by the hour, I am sure.[sigh]mattyillininoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-48325829608995315652010-07-22T10:58:28.905-04:002010-07-22T10:58:28.905-04:00Can anyone tell me the history of the VA? When an...Can anyone tell me the history of the VA? When and why were they created in the first place?<br /><br />Were they created in response to specific actions by retaurants and bars that the local communities deemed negative? Were they created in anticipation of potential negative occurances?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-92147399461857574012010-07-22T10:30:28.418-04:002010-07-22T10:30:28.418-04:00Bloomingdale re: I have been following with great...Bloomingdale re: I have been following with great interest the issue of the Big Bear Cafe. Since we don't live in Bloomingdale or patronize the Cafe, I've refrained from commenting about it. But what has transpired there is indeed troubling, particularly, as you note, the fact that the two Commisioners whose SMDs are most impacted by the BBC's operations support the license, whereas those whose SMDs are farther away have curtailed it.Mr. Other Upper NWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12536367497290075887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-38424592968843916712010-07-22T10:20:05.316-04:002010-07-22T10:20:05.316-04:00Great post. I read the one on GGW yesterday and i...Great post. I read the one on GGW yesterday and it was interesting to read the comments. It's time people realize that DC is a large, metropolitan city and that some noise, etc. is going to occur. I plan on gathering my friends and neighbors and start attending our ANC meetings to put an end to this backwards thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-11859546262963966002010-07-22T09:56:55.709-04:002010-07-22T09:56:55.709-04:00Great post - I would also add that there is also a...Great post - I would also add that there is also a problem of the ANC representatives from SMDs not directly affected by the establishments having a vote on whether to proptest a license. Big Bear Cafe in Bloomingdale has been hostage to just this scenario with the two representatives in the actual areas surrounding the cafe being supporters but all other reps opposing even though it has little to no impact on their districts. Total abuse of power.bloomingdale residentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-86688386769177713082010-07-22T08:54:30.860-04:002010-07-22T08:54:30.860-04:00The problem with the VA process and the instinctiv...The problem with the VA process and the instinctive opposition to liquor license applications is that it gives people the mistaken impression that they can dictate to business owners (and other residents) exactly what goes on and at what time. The nature of not being a business owner is that you don't get to make decisions about how a business is run; it's not yours. What the VA process does is start to plant the idea in people's heads that they have a right to decide when a local business opens, when it closes, and, in a past era, what kind of music was to be played.<br /><br />We have zoning and noise ordinances for that kind of thing. The VA process ends up doing nothing but creating hundreds of "micro-zoning" laws and encourages others to create them where they didn't exist before.dchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08808067590437877111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2095284393772305956.post-27564201626277407312010-07-22T07:36:15.067-04:002010-07-22T07:36:15.067-04:00This is a great post and analysis of the problem. ...This is a great post and analysis of the problem. There is a class of mini-powerbrokers in neighborhoods who know the system and how to use it, and not always to fair ends. In the case you cite, it sounds as if the ABC Board acted smartly. Generally, I don’t think any group of neighborhood people should expect an automatic blank check to dictate terms and conditions. It's an unreasonable amount of power, and it is the ABC Board's job to balance it.kobhttp://dcblogs.comnoreply@blogger.com